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NEMO
04 Apr 2007, 10:50 PM
another good indi...very useful...
kekadang kita xperasan divergence so boleh la nengok indi nih..



http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6530/fx5divergencett2.jpg

nazeelie
04 Apr 2007, 10:59 PM
hebat ni nak main swing

corem2u-janawang
04 Apr 2007, 11:40 PM
mcm maner tu..
kurang phm cara penggunaan nyer tu..
lh terangkan skit x..

NEMO
04 Apr 2007, 11:50 PM
mcm maner tu..
kurang phm cara penggunaan nyer tu..
lh terangkan skit x..

mcmni divergence bermakna perubahan trend akan berlaku..

tgk kat chart tu yg sy ckp short tu..sebelum tu trend adalah UP ....so mcmmane kita nak tau bile nak short..

lihat pada indi...ada garis hijau yg sambungkan low kepada lower low...tetapi pada chart berlaku sebaliknya high kepada higher high...so ini dinamakan divergence...

bila dah nampak perbezaan indi dgn chart ini...perubahan trend dari uptrend kepada downtrend akan berlaku...

so...apalagi short la...:D


konsep sama jugak utk long....

corem2u-janawang
05 Apr 2007, 12:27 AM
ooo...mcm tu kiranye bila dh kuar perbezaan kt indi ngan chart tu kira akan berlaku divergence le yer...
ok lh phm dh...
thanks bro nemo..
dh try apply kt chart..
mcm ni yer..

1924

NEMO
05 Apr 2007, 12:38 AM
yup betul la tuh..cuba perhati chart tu..nanti paham la..apapun kena tambah indi lain gak nak utk comfirm..tp kalu ko tengok kan...ada 3 line ijau situ..makna ada 3 divergence...so signal tu kuat la utk perubahan trend berlaku...


kalu main TF besar nih..mmg makan kenyang...:D

erzua_anna
05 Apr 2007, 12:50 AM
ini ceta psl apa ni ae?? ceta mkn ayam ke...lalalallala...:D :D :D :p

DanielAriffin
05 Apr 2007, 03:34 PM
ini ceta psl apa ni ae?? ceta mkn ayam ke...lalalallala...:D :D :D :p

Hello geng...
perghhh ko bajer forex yer labi... kekekeke

goldvalley
05 Apr 2007, 08:32 PM
k paham2..
thanx for d info...

happy trading

sakifli
06 Apr 2007, 07:53 AM
yup betul la tuh..cuba perhati chart tu..nanti paham la..apapun kena tambah indi lain gak nak utk comfirm..tp kalu ko tengok kan...ada 3 line ijau situ..makna ada 3 divergence...so signal tu kuat la utk perubahan trend berlaku...


kalu main TF besar nih..mmg makan kenyang...:D

oooo..jd klu dia muncul satu line je dulu...mean bahaya la utk kita post erk.....
kene tunggu at least 3 line...tul tak....

TF bapa yg sesuai eh?...

NEMO
06 Apr 2007, 11:19 AM
oooo..jd klu dia muncul satu line je dulu...mean bahaya la utk kita post erk.....
kene tunggu at least 3 line...tul tak....

TF bapa yg sesuai eh?...

xsemestinya kena byk line...satu line pun xpe...janji ada divergence...cuma kalu dah byk line tu...kira kuat la ....



mana2 TF boleh pakai...

sakifli
06 Apr 2007, 02:39 PM
xsemestinya kena byk line...satu line pun xpe...janji ada divergence...cuma kalu dah byk line tu...kira kuat la ....



mana2 TF boleh pakai...

hmm...susah gak klu satu line..mcm kt pic tu....dia naik..bknnye mkin turun selepas kuar satu line utk ke bwh...

jibamcash
06 Apr 2007, 04:43 PM
Boris Schlossberg, Senior Currency Strategist, FXCM ader bagi satu tips nak guna Divergence untuk trade...

Biasanya untuk dikatakan Divergence berlaku apabila..

Price tunjukkan... New Swing high or New swing Low tetapi.. MACD histogram berlaku sebaliknya..

Namun masalahnya .." Unfortunately, the divergence trade is not very accurate - it fails more times than it succeeds"... Kita expect price reversal selepas nampak divergece.. tapi kekadang sebelum reversal berlaku.. price up dulu meyebabkan entry kita jadi merah.. lebih malang kalau ia hit stop loss..

So.. tips dari BORIS SCHLOSSBERG...

Kita kena gunakan MACD HISTOGRAM untuk ENTRY & EXIT...
So.. apabila berlaku divergence antara macd histogram dan price (new swing high ).. Kita jangka akan berlaku REVERSAL..

So kita SHORT bila berlakunya DIVERGENCE.... Untuk STOP LOSS.. kita jgn letak STOP LOSS just above SWING HIGH PRICE... Tapi kita akan EXIT hanya SEKIRANYA... MACD HISTOGRAM yang berikutnya lebih tinggi berbanding pada MACD HISTOGRAM pada PREVIOSU SWING HIGH PRICE...

Happy Trading..

NEMO
06 Apr 2007, 05:16 PM
Boris Schlossberg, Senior Currency Strategist, FXCM ader bagi satu tips nak guna Divergence untuk trade...

Biasanya untuk dikatakan Divergence berlaku apabila..

Price tunjukkan... New Swing high or New swing Low tetapi.. MACD histogram berlaku sebaliknya..

Namun masalahnya .." Unfortunately, the divergence trade is not very accurate - it fails more times than it succeeds"... Kita expect price reversal selepas nampak divergece.. tapi kekadang sebelum reversal berlaku.. price up dulu meyebabkan entry kita jadi merah.. lebih malang kalau ia hit stop loss..

So.. tips dari BORIS SCHLOSSBERG...

Kita kena gunakan MACD HISTOGRAM untuk ENTRY & EXIT...
So.. apabila berlaku divergence antara macd histogram dan price (new swing high ).. Kita jangka akan berlaku REVERSAL..

So kita SHORT bila berlakunya DIVERGENCE.... Untuk STOP LOSS.. kita jgn letak STOP LOSS just above SWING HIGH PRICE... Tapi kita akan EXIT hanya SEKIRANYA... MACD HISTOGRAM yang berikutnya lebih tinggi berbanding pada MACD HISTOGRAM pada PREVIOSU SWING HIGH PRICE...

Happy Trading..

tq for the info...


divergence adalah tanda2 reversal....jadi comfirmation perlu dibuat dgn indikator lain

anne_81
19 Apr 2007, 01:30 AM
Buku boris schlosberg ni aku ada, macam2 ada kat situ.
Dia byk kpd analisis teknikal.
So sape2 yg nak terer bab2 teknikal bcalah buku tu.
Nak cari kat internet, memang x dpt.
Aku beli kat MPH midvalley aritu, reganya sampai rm200.oo
But definitely worth it.

erzua_anna
19 Apr 2007, 01:32 AM
Hello geng...
perghhh ko bajer forex yer labi... kekekeke

ahhaha...labu aku satu pun tak paham...:D :D :D

sugarush
19 Apr 2007, 07:29 AM
another good indi...very useful...
kekadang kita xperasan divergence so boleh la nengok indi nih..



http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6530/fx5divergencett2.jpg

sebenarnya dlm gambar yg awak attach ni, itu bukan bearish divergence atau bullish divergence.. itu adalah hidden divergence.. hidden divergence = trend continuation

cara nak guna indicator ni..
bila kuar line hijau + arrow hijau, kita buy
bila kuar line merah + arrow merah, kita sell


bullish divergence = trend nak berubah jadi uptrend..
ciri2 dia: price creates lower low, tapi indicator creates higher low

bearish divergence = trend nak berubah jadi downtrend..
ciri2 dia: price creates higher high, tapi indicator creates lower high

hidden divergence ada 2:

1. hidden divergence utk continue uptrend. contohnya mcm gambar kat atas. price creates higher low, tapi indicator creates lower low

2. hidden divergence utk continue downtrend. Price creates lower high, tapi indicator creates higher high

kalau tak paham term lower low, lower high, higher low, higher high, silalah tanya encik google... jgn malas :)

zaberi
19 Apr 2007, 07:34 AM
[/B]kalau tak paham term lower low, lower high, higher low, higher high, silalah tanya encik google... jgn malas :)[/QUOTE]

paham cikgu;)

jibamcash
19 Apr 2007, 09:17 AM
Oscillators are most useful and issue their most valid trading signals when their readings diverge from prices.

A bullish divergence occurs when prices fall to a new low while an oscillator fails to reach a new low. This situation demonstrates that bears are losing power, and that bulls are ready to control the market again - often a bullish divergence marks the end of a downtrend.

Bearish divergences signify uptrends, when prices rally to a new high while the oscillator refuses to reach a new peak. In this situation, bulls are losing their grip on the market, prices are rising only as a result of inertia, and the bears are ready to take control again.


Types of Divergences

Divergences, whether bullish or bearish in nature, have been classified according to their levels of strength. The strongest divergences are Class A divergences; exhibiting less strength are Class B divergences; and the weakest divergences are Class C. The best trading opportunities are indicated by Class A divergences, while Class B and C divergences represent choppy market action and should generally be ignored.

Class A bearish divergences occur when prices rise to a new high but the oscillator can only muster a high that is lower than exhibited on a previous rally. Class A bearish divergences often signal a sharp and significant reversal toward a downtrend. Class A bullish divergences occur when prices reach a new low but an oscillator reaches a higher bottom than it reached during its previous decline. Class A bullish divergences are often the best signals of an impending sharp rally.

Class B bearish divergences are illustrated by prices making a double top, with an oscillator tracing a lower second top. Class B bullish divergences occur when prices trace a double bottom, with an oscillator tracing a higher second bottom.

Class C bearish divergences occur when prices rise to a new high but an indicator stops at the very same level it reached during the previous rally. Class C bullish divergences occur when prices fall to a new low while the indicator traces a double bottom. Class C divergences are most indicative of market stagnation - bulls and bears are becoming neither stronger nor weaker.

JiraiyaSama
19 Apr 2007, 12:25 PM
ramainye cfoooooooo....erzua_anna sifu lak.....

anne_81
19 Apr 2007, 12:28 PM
Spotting a divergence is one of the high probability winning trades.

jibamcash
25 Apr 2007, 09:07 AM
Ramai guru Technical Analysis membuat analog...

Divergence nie hanya sebagai WARNING SIGN price Weakness or Strength....

Divergence nie .. Analognya seperti Petanda sebelum hujan nak turun.. biasanya awan akan mendung dan menjadi gelap.... So ini divergence.. So untuk pastikan memang hujan akan turun.. kita kenan tunggu titisan hujan yang pertama...

Dalam erti kata lain.. Untuk kita kena Confirm reversal tu dari price...

Cth: Completed Candlestick tunjuk reversal sign..

harap membantu

Happy Trading

JC

jibamcash
25 Apr 2007, 09:09 AM
Ramai guru Technical Analysis membuat analog...

Divergence nie hanya sebagai WARNING SIGN price Weakness or Strength....

Divergence nie .. Analognya seperti Petanda sebelum hujan nak turun.. biasanya awan akan mendung dan menjadi gelap.... So ini divergence.. So untuk pastikan memang hujan akan turun.. kita kenan tunggu titisan hujan yang pertama...

Dalam erti kata lain.. Untuk kita kena Confirm reversal tu dari price...

Cth: Completed Candlestick tunjuk reversal sign..

harap membantu

Happy Trading

JC

Tak leh edit yer....

Kita mesti CONFIRM REVERSAL DARI PRICE.. Bukannya indicator sebelum enter position...

RASANYA MA CROSSOVER PUN OK.. Ntahlah.

JC

goldendream
25 Apr 2007, 11:50 AM
walaupun aku tak tahu nk guna divergence... tapi kalo tgk indi ni..macam membantu gak utk spot reversal trend...

brainn68
23 May 2007, 08:37 PM
Spotting a divergence is one of the high probability winning trades.

assalamualaikum semua .nak tanya sikit pasal indi FX5 Divegence.... aku baru cuba nak guna indicator ni... tapi confius sikit degan term Reverse Bullish Divergence, Classic Bullish Divergence, Reverse Bearish Divergence dan Classic Bearish Divergence..... ada sapa-sapa yang bermurah hati untuk tolong jelaskan :confused:

hanzahar
23 May 2007, 09:52 PM
eh bagus ni...camne ni nk guneq

sugarush
24 May 2007, 09:01 AM
assalamualaikum semua .nak tanya sikit pasal indi FX5 Divegence.... aku baru cuba nak guna indicator ni... tapi confius sikit degan term Reverse Bullish Divergence, Classic Bullish Divergence, Reverse Bearish Divergence dan Classic Bearish Divergence..... ada sapa-sapa yang bermurah hati untuk tolong jelaskan :confused:

bleh baca pasal divergence kat sini.. Divergence Trading - College: Trading Divergences - Beginner's Guide to Forex Trading, Free Forex Education, Learn to Trade Forex, Forex Training - BabyPips.com (http://www.babypips.com/school/divergence_trading.html)

rolan
24 May 2007, 11:05 PM
Kalau menggunakan FX5 divergenge pastikan kesesuaian d tf yg mana contoh pada tf daily utk pair gu pada 13.4.2007 harga 2.0129 terdapat bearish divergence dan trend terus bertukar arah sehingga kini.





:)guy

Abang_Mie
24 May 2007, 11:09 PM
Kalau menggunakan FX5 divergenge pastikan kesesuaian d tf yg mana contoh pada tf daily utk pair gu pada 13.4.2007 harga 2.0129 terdapat bearish divergence dan trend terus bertukar arah sehingga kini.





:)guy

Bro, boleh kasi contoh image divergence tu tak ?

Abang_Mie
24 May 2007, 11:10 PM
Kalau menggunakan FX5 divergenge pastikan kesesuaian d tf yg mana contoh pada tf daily utk pair gu pada 13.4.2007 harga 2.0129 terdapat bearish divergence dan trend terus bertukar arah sehingga kini.





:)guy

Bro, boleh kasi contoh image divergence tu tak ? Aku cuba cari guna TF Daily kat meta , harga 2.0129 takde pun ?

mohzulmd
06 Jan 2008, 03:27 AM
ini adalah contoh divergences